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December 27, 2011

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Lukesaysmoo

Part of the issue I think is that our culture has always used the effeminate, flaming homo as shtick rather than a real character. And of course America has a problem with any guy who isn't uber macho.

Kunal Prasad

Racial minorities also face many of the same issues. Luckily I'm both gay and a racial minority, so I think about these things a lot.
What I find most annoying though are heteronormative attitudes, especially in regards to masculinity and femininity, because when people write things like, "This is no Jack MacFarland" not only are they oblivious to the fact that their statement is degrading, but they also lack the self-awareness to understand that they operate under a heteronormic world view.

Alejandro

I dunno. I think straight guys have a whole boatload of crap to deal with I'd rather not (like um, I don't want it to be a given I have to pay for dinner on dates).

The gay and straight acting shit is such bullshit because I know plenty of straight guys who love the opera, are sensitive, or dress well. I'm sort of like you Josh. No one would mistake me for straight, but I am not very much like the Chelsea/Hells Kitchen types of gays (I'm not very East Village/Williamsburg either . . . I'm a nongay! Help!). Yeah, I love the opera but I also love brown liquor and indie rock and I'm happy wearing crappy jeans and a t-shirt and sneakers 24/7.

I'm also very attracted to butch types, so I worry that my desire discriminates and that I would reject someone who is like me and therefore I say that I am undesirable. Add to that I am generally attracted to white guys, which is a whole other kettle of fish that disturbs me greatly. I feel like everything I desire sexually denies who I am.

jconks

Alejandro,

"I feel like everything I desire sexually denies who I am." I KNOW! It's awful.

cgeye

Do we even want to talk about dykes on TV who wear makeup, high heels, perform heteronormality down to the long nails? Or if they have a hint of butchness, must be a comedienne? I get it: Dyke + Makeup = Sexbot or Clown, but still -- annoying.

jconks

L Word had some sexy butch characters, but that's all I can think of. In fact, i can't think of a single lesbian character AT ALL on TV right now.

Recycle2011

Bitchslappin is fun, isn't it? Lolz. Check out this video from Canadian comedian Josh Rimer which I found on YouTube! http://youtu.be/yDCk3NN_HAs

cgeye

(spammist misogynist fuck, above)

cgeye

... and I truly believe there are no more dykes on American TV. Only women who are safely women-lovers without politics, meaning they threaten absolutely no one, down to disavowing feminism beyond its past help with making their careers possible.

There's the lesbo on WHITE COLLAR, but she's so assimilated she gave up her DC FBI posting (and, her girlfriend, last time I checked), to work for her nice massa boss and his pet handsome boy.

Once L&O: SVU cast professional faghag Kathy Griffin as a bisexual political opportunist, to present the moral that Transgender Bois are Violent and Evil and lesbians should be like Mariska Hargitay -- butch and pining for men -- I gave up. It's as if the industry congratulated itself after letting Hilary Swank win awards as butch characters, and thought their work was done.

I also think the medicalization of transgender identity also made things easy for straights. If the solution's a pill or surgery, then why have fags or dykes who make straights uncomfortable? They're sick, they should get treated, and live their lives in yet another little box the straight world has cut out for them.

It's like mandating a color-blind culture, when society finds it more useful to give honorary-white-person status to mixed-race people and penalize unassimilated people for their stubbornness.

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